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April 13, 2007

Update

Hi 3Bs,

I wrote about wanting to spend some money, but still being in debt and the problems it was causing in my marriage of almost 20 years. At the time, my husband was freaking out and I was not having it.

Hopefully, you’ve been busy and haven’t answered. Update: All is well. New furniture will be delivered in a day or two and no one had to die.

I guess you don’t survive this long in a relationship unless you can figure it out yourselves. We are still paying off debt, but the worst of it is over.

Just having someone far removed from my life to vent to saved my sanity.
So I thank you both very much (and wish Zube girl a speedy return).

Sincerely,
False alarm

April 10, 2007

It's Always Good When the Question Starts With, "I Know I'm Going to Get It from You, But..."

Hey chickies,
I have a feeling this question is gonna prompt you bitches to rip me a new one, but I say rip away--it’s better to know that something I’m thinking of doing is retarded before I actually go and do it.
So, I haven’t had many relationships--pretty much every time I find a guy I’m interested in, it never fails that some deal-breaker comes to light (i.e. he has a girlfriend or 3 kids from 3 different women or can’t hold a steady job to save his life). I have this friend of mine who’s majorly funny, smart and all-around really cool, and needless to say I’m attracted to him. And, by all accounts from our mutual friends, he thinks I’m not too shabby either. There are, however, a couple obstacles to pursuing any kind of relationship with him: 1) he is an alcoholic and 2) he has MAJOR self-esteem issues (as in he is self-deprecating, but not in a funny or endearing way). My question isn’t whether I should look past all that and go for it anyway; I already know that’s bad news. I am curious about a fuck buddy-type relationship. Whenever we party together, especially when we drink, we get really uh, “handsy”. We haven’t done anything yet, but I was wondering if you guys thinks it’s a bad idea to sleep with him; of course after making it clear that I’m not interested in anything more than sex. I know the ideal fuck buddy arrangement is with someone you have no kind of emotional relationship with, friend-wise or romantically, but I’ve fooled around with a friend of mine before, and it didn’t hurt our friendship at all--that guy is actually one of my closest friends today. Am I being a total moron in thinking I can make it work a second time? My other thought is that I should just be his friend, and if he finally gets his shit together, pursue something more--but I’m 22 and OMIGOD, THE HORMONES.

Tell it to me, sistas,
(make up a clever name for me if you can, cuz I’ve got nothin’ and it’s time to go shopping :))

IconpcI, personally, have never had luck with the "fuck-buddy" relationship.   It is far too complicated for me and I found myself getting far too involved and would just wind up getting hurt.  So I wrote that whole thing off, for ME, as pretty much the worst idea since electing George W. Bush president.
But hey!  Maybe you are different!  And lucky!  And smarter!  Do you think you could have 100% detached sex with this guy?  What if you were in the midst of this sex-only relationship and out with some girlfriends and you saw him on a date?  Would that bother you?  Would you feel that whole possesive vibe kick in?
Maybe you are completely experienced in the successful fuck-buddy school of thought, it sounds like maybe you are.  But I think you need to buy a fucking vibrator and spend some time looking into to why on earth you can't seem to be attracted to productive members of society.  Because DAMN.  What do you do... put on your short skirt and hooker heels and case the unemployment line?

IconbjI think you need to buy some sex toys and lock yourself in the house. Because OMIGOD THE HORMONES looks to be getting you into a pickle or two. Or a "pickle tickle," as Jon Lovitz so wonderfully declared in A League of Their Own. That way, you can get off without all this DRAMA. Because that's all it is, honestly. Rely on Duracell until you can mature a bit and get over this "bad for you but what the hell" thing. Try a rabbit. You know, it's PINK. For GIRLS.

And one of my best friends ever is an ex fuck buddy. I love him dearly and have ever since. Does this make what we did a helathy relationship? No. We just got lucky that we got through it.

IconzgOn baby-cookin' leave. Read up on all her gestational goings-on here.

April 06, 2007

Ahhh, To Be 13 Again...

wat should u do if ur mom and dad are the biggest stupid bitches ever?

Iconbj Get a job.
I am guessing that you are in the younger range of our demographic here. Don't ask me why. Hence, the answer given will follow that assumption. If you're over 30, my whole answer consists of "You need professional help." And a good grammar lesson.

Also, since I'm answering this after PChef and she was all wise and kind and shit, I'm taking another route. I will operate under the idea that your parents are indeed, big stupid bitches. Mine were. It's not hard to imagine.

The only way to be an adult and make your own decisions is to PAY YOUR OWN WAY. If they're footing the bill, they make the rules. It's just like a job- you will have to eat spoonfed SHIT from the people who pay your way, and if you want to continue getting paid, you better swallow with a smile.

So? Plan of action? Let me tell you what worked for me.
Work HARD in school. As hard as is possible. Get a scholarship. A FULL one. Then, questions about where you go and what you do cease the day you turn 18. Before that, you're fucked. Sorry to break it to you that way, but it's true. Also? You'll need a job while you're in college. One that pays your rent and for some kind of food. You won't live well, but no one will be able to tell you what to do. And save a little for rat traps, because your apartment? Well, you won't be able to afford pest control. But NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.

For me, it was worth it.

If you don't want to go to college, get a job and start paying your own bills. ALL of them. Rent, utilities, phone, water, insurance, car, food, etc. ALL OF THEM. And keep in mind that you probably won't ever make as much because you didn't go to college, but that's up to you.

NOW, considering what all I've spelled out, sit down and think. Are they REALLY that bad? Is this a case of truly emotionally abusive people or just people who won't let you do what you want? Is it REALLY worth giving up a cushy life at home where there's food in the cabinets and clothes on your back and cable TV over something that will seem small in a year? If it is, I wish you all the luck in the world. You might need it.

Now, if we're COMPLETELY off base, before you decide we're big stupid bitches too, you might want to consider writing back and actually including something resembling a DETAIL or two, 'k? Just a thought.

IconpcThirteen year old me?  Seventeen year old me?  Is that you?  If so then can I tell you a few things?  Do you remember that guy?  The one you thought was SO dreamy?  The one you spent hours and hours crying over because you just weren't sure he liked you enough and you just thought that you would die without him and so you gave up nearly every moral you'd ever held and spent the next 9 years in a progressive downward spiral and your parents hated him? 

Or that time that they said "Hey.  Maybe a job tending bar that keeps you at work until about 3 am on a weeknight when you are a college freshman, have an 8:00 class and lack the general self-discipline to drag your ass out of bed just because you aren't willing to tell us that you need more money to buy beer, pot and pizza isn't the smartest plan you've ever come up with"... Dude.  They were totally right.

See... here's the thing young grasshopper.  Your parents?  In general have your best interest at heart.  Yes.  They are old and dumb and just don't know anything and good GOD how humiliating is it that you can't go to the beach for spring break with the rest of your 14 year old friends.  Guess what?  You are far too young.  And you are asking for nothing but trouble.  And they DO know because NOT THAT MUCH has changed.

And one day, when you are about 24 or so and like a caterpillar in a cocoon your head suddenly pops out of your ass you will find yourself saying two things to your parents that you never thought you would ever say.  First, you will tell them you are sorry for being such a douchebag.  And then?  You will thank them for not giving up on you.

Besides.  That guy?  Totally has like 3 kids and has been divorced twice now.  And I heard a rumor he still wears his high school football letter jacket.

IconzgOn baby-cookin' leave. Read up on all her gestational goings-on here.

April 04, 2007

How a Dining Room Set Can End a Marriage

My husband of almost 20 years and I have figured out how to be happy. The first years were rough sometimes and I’m glad that part’s over.  But we slip back to our old ways now and then. Which brings me to why I’m writing.

In our early years together, we didn’t make much money. But we didn’t feel the need to spend much either, so it was fine. We even saved enough to buy a small house and a better car. We continued to save. My job required me to leave the house before the sun was up. His job had sweet hours and he could sleep in and still get home before I did because he was still in school and only working part-time. Then he was working part-time, but had given up on school  just short of getting his master’s degree. That was a huge problem for me because of all the time and money wasted. I also thought he should get another job / work full time. But we were saving 50% of our combined income, so I didn’t push. Besides, he did the cooking and cleaning. It worked well for both of us.

Fast forward several years. We have our first child and we are suddenly and completely overwhelmed with the need to keep him home with us. At first, we figured I would go back to work while my husband stayed home. We tried that. All you working moms who nurse are superhuman. It was hell. After a month of pumping at work and getting very little milk and rushing home to nurse and getting up in the wee hours to nurse, we supplemented with formula....and I also looked up and said “Uh....how about YOU go work and I stay home with the nursing baby.” My job didn’t pay enough to justify the cost of childcare. But my husband still had a low paying job, too. So he decided to pursue another career. It had much more earning potential, but the first years would be very lean. We figured that it would take maybe 3 years to start seeing some profits.

3 years later, with growing debt and baby #2 now on the way, I wanted to find a bigger house. The 3 of us were a tight fit in the house as it was.

We moved. Debt grew. We both wanted me to continue to stay home with the kids. We were willing to make any sacrifice. We did without things like new clothes,  shoes, haircuts and subscriptions to newspapers and magazines. We kept the old car. We lived with no living or dining room furniture. If it meant that the kids could stay home with us, we didn’t care.

When the youngest was old enough to go to pre-school and we couldn’t afford to send him, I got a job at the pre-school which didn’t pay much but meant that our child could attend for free. After a while, I picked up 2nd part-time job, too. When the youngest entered kindergarten, I went back to my original job and kept the 2nd job so that we could pay down all of the credit card debt, which was now almost $40,000. My husband continued to under earn but wouldn’t change careers because he was convinced that it would eventually pay off. Well, it took almost 8 years (hence the huge amount of debt) but his business finally took off and he started making the money we had hoped he would be making year 3. It’s too little too late, but the business is still growing and he
likes this line of work.

Today we are still in the hole to the tune of about $17,000. But here’s the problem: I have reached the end of my ability to scrimp and save. I want furniture. I want to paint. I want a goddamn haircut. And my husband is FREAKING OUT. Suddenly, I don’t “share his values.” I went to the furniture store and found what I want. The no interest monthly payments are less than 1/6th of my monthly take-home pay. I don’t want to have to keep throwing every extra penny into the debt hole. I want something to show for working at a challenging job, even though it’s a job I do enjoy. I am now in my 40s. I feel I have postponed gratification long enough. My feeling is that he was chronically underemployed for too long, and that this debt is the result of that. I’m not going to carelessly plunge us into financial ruin....but I would like some effin’ furniture. However, he is being such a jerk about it that I don’t even know if I could enjoy it at this point. Should I go ahead anyway? I don’t think I’m being unreasonable...but if I am, please point out how. And if I’m not, and I buy the furniture, then how do I deal with the martyrdom that is sure to follow? I don’t think this is worth busting up a 20 year marriage, but I don’t want to live like this any more either. WWTBD (What Would Three Bitches Do)??

Signed,
Not getting any younger

IconpcFirst of all... HOT DAMN you are a far more patient woman than I would have been.  Now that I've got that off my chest let me tell you what I think of your quandry.  I don't think its really the new stuff you want.  Yes, we all want nice, new things.  Yes we all need haircuts and pretty shoes.  And you have worked your ass off while spending years pouring every cent back into what you were starting to become frightened was an endless pit of dept and sacrifice.  My teeth itch and my hair hurts just thinking about the stress you have spent the past years living in.

And are you being unreasonable?  Nope.  I don't think you are at all.  Is he overreacting with this whole "not sharing the same values" thing?  Hell yes he is.  Your husband is a damn drama queen.

But here's the thing.  I think now that his business is finally doing what you thought it would years ago, you are finally allowing the resentment you've let build and fester for years and years bubble to the surface.  You obviously blame him for the sacrifices you have made for your family because you felt he could have taken a job that would have prevented them.  I completely understand and I don't think that's unwarranted.  But I want to suggest an alternative.

Treat yourself to a massage, a facial, hell a whole spa day.  You have MORE than earned it and good lord, at this point you could probably get a marriage therapist to write you a prescription for a little long overdue TLC.  But hold off on the furniture until after.  He IS being a jerk about it and I think you should tell him exactly where to stuff it.  But don't just show up with the furniture.  While my general mantra for marriage survival is "'Tis far better to ask forgivness than permission" I don't know how well that one applies when you are talking about several thousand dollars in furniture.  I apply that one to things like... shoes.

You DESERVE that new furniture.  No question.  You have sacrificed for too long.  But is that furniture worth driving an even larger wedge in a marriage that is already chock-full of unspoken resentment?  Take my word for it... a hot stone massage, a seaweed body wrap and some shiny red toes will tide you over for a bit.  He owes you at least that much instant gratification.  Better to look smoking hot for the negotiations than have him come home to a dining room full of constant reminders that you couldn't agree on something...

Iconbj Having been on the EXTREME budget for many years myself, I TOTALLY get what you're saying. I really do. There's something to be said for finally not having to walk to the clearance racks first or see what's 75% off or buying the store brand or sitting on a couch that came from your mother-in-law's basement that reliably sticks you in the ass with a spring every time you sit down.

Basically, you ARE NOT WRONG.

In my world, money is something to use to get what you need first and what you enjoy second, as long as you have a little put away for emergencies. Hoarding it does not make happiness, and neither does spending it all- the trick is BALANCE. (Are you reading this, honey? Just checking.)

I personally think Mr. Stingy Husband Man needs a little talking to. In the NICEST WAY POSSIBLE, remind him that you guys are in this together, that you helped get him where he is, and that you getting to enjoy a bit of it is not unreasonable. I have no idea what all this values nonsense is- sounds to me like he's made a little and doesn't want to part with it, but he needs a reminder that he would have never made it without you. You've earned it.

And if that doesn't work, ask him how he feels about parting with half of it. EVERY MONTH. UNDER COURT ORDER. That should get his attention. Because SERIOUSLY, "values"? I'm with PChef- what a fucking drama queen.

IconzgOn baby-cookin' leave. Read up on all her gestational goings-on here.